Comments on: BeebCamp gave me a new idea for how the BBC could work http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/beebcamp-gave-me-a-new-idea-for-how-the-bbc-could-work-2/ Thoughts and experiences on digitalia, music and other stuff Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:34:55 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Customers or Shareholders? – Sir Michael Lyons talks about the BBC « Jason DaPonte’s blog http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/beebcamp-gave-me-a-new-idea-for-how-the-bbc-could-work-2/#comment-147 Customers or Shareholders? – Sir Michael Lyons talks about the BBC « Jason DaPonte’s blog Wed, 20 May 2009 18:52:02 +0000 http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/?p=308#comment-147 [...] I posted a rough proposal for how I imagined this could happen a few months ago.  I wonder if Sir Michael’s read it.  I doubt it but would love to know what he thinks. [...] [...] I posted a rough proposal for how I imagined this could happen a few months ago.  I wonder if Sir Michael’s read it.  I doubt it but would love to know what he thinks. [...]

]]> By: Maybe what your news organization needs is a ’spontaneous bashing together of ideas’ | What’s New in News http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/beebcamp-gave-me-a-new-idea-for-how-the-bbc-could-work-2/#comment-98 Maybe what your news organization needs is a ’spontaneous bashing together of ideas’ | What’s New in News Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:40:57 +0000 http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/?p=308#comment-98 [...] as it’s been almost a month since the Feb. 18 gathering. There’s already ample coverage of the discussions and presentations (plus tags on Twitter and Flickr), so I won’t rehash [...] [...] as it’s been almost a month since the Feb. 18 gathering. There’s already ample coverage of the discussions and presentations (plus tags on Twitter and Flickr), so I won’t rehash [...]

]]> By: nickreynoldsatwork http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/beebcamp-gave-me-a-new-idea-for-how-the-bbc-could-work-2/#comment-77 nickreynoldsatwork Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:27:04 +0000 http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/?p=308#comment-77 Long blog post now finished: http://nickreynoldsatwork.wordpress.com/2009/02/22/a-new-idea-for-how-the-bbc-could-work-not/ I wish I'd been to Beebcamp... Long blog post now finished:

http://nickreynoldsatwork.wordpress.com/2009/02/22/a-new-idea-for-how-the-bbc-could-work-not/

I wish I’d been to Beebcamp…

]]> By: “A New Idea For How The BBC Could Work” …Not « Nick Reynolds At Work http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/beebcamp-gave-me-a-new-idea-for-how-the-bbc-could-work-2/#comment-76 “A New Idea For How The BBC Could Work” …Not « Nick Reynolds At Work Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:24:51 +0000 http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/?p=308#comment-76 [...] inspired Jason Da Ponte to write this: (”BeebCamp gave me a new idea for how the BBC could work”): Each year you pay your license fee to the BBC in exchange for programming that you own and control [...] [...] inspired Jason Da Ponte to write this: (”BeebCamp gave me a new idea for how the BBC could work”): Each year you pay your license fee to the BBC in exchange for programming that you own and control [...]

]]> By: nickreynoldsatwork http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/beebcamp-gave-me-a-new-idea-for-how-the-bbc-could-work-2/#comment-73 nickreynoldsatwork Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:06:28 +0000 http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/?p=308#comment-73 It's a terrible idea. I'll have to write a long blog post explaining why. But among other things it would not bring innovation to the mainstream, and would reinforce some of the BBC's already bad habits. Watch out for that blog post. It’s a terrible idea. I’ll have to write a long blog post explaining why. But among other things it would not bring innovation to the mainstream, and would reinforce some of the BBC’s already bad habits.

Watch out for that blog post.

]]> By: Justin Kerr-Stevens http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/beebcamp-gave-me-a-new-idea-for-how-the-bbc-could-work-2/#comment-70 Justin Kerr-Stevens Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:14:23 +0000 http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/?p=308#comment-70 Jason, Really interesting idea. Given the Government's focus on moving services online and empowering constituents with choice, it would make sense to see the BBC do something similar. Jason,

Really interesting idea. Given the Government’s focus on moving services online and empowering constituents with choice, it would make sense to see the BBC do something similar.

]]> By: Jonas Klevhag http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/beebcamp-gave-me-a-new-idea-for-how-the-bbc-could-work-2/#comment-69 Jonas Klevhag Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:28:46 +0000 http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/?p=308#comment-69 I was very inspired by the Bandstocks model when I read about it on your blog before. As long as it doesn't kill the artistic initiative, I think it's a brilliant tool to acheive direct commercial communication between artists and tv channels and their audiences. And a way to get around the piracy issue as you said. A compromise to combine viewer democracy with skilled commissioning could perhaps be to let the viewer invest their license fees in BBC channels rather than individual programs? I was very inspired by the Bandstocks model when I read about it on your blog before. As long as it doesn’t kill the artistic initiative, I think it’s a brilliant tool to acheive direct commercial communication between artists and tv channels and their audiences. And a way to get around the piracy issue as you said.

A compromise to combine viewer democracy with skilled commissioning could perhaps be to let the viewer invest their license fees in BBC channels rather than individual programs?

]]> By: Jason DaPonte: BeebCamp and new ways of working at the BBC | Journalism.co.uk Editors' Blog http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/beebcamp-gave-me-a-new-idea-for-how-the-bbc-could-work-2/#comment-68 Jason DaPonte: BeebCamp and new ways of working at the BBC | Journalism.co.uk Editors' Blog Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:20:46 +0000 http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/?p=308#comment-68 [...] Full post at this link… [...] [...] Full post at this link… [...]

]]> By: David http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/beebcamp-gave-me-a-new-idea-for-how-the-bbc-could-work-2/#comment-66 David Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:04:06 +0000 http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/?p=308#comment-66 "Would this water down the quality of our content? It could. And that would be a disaster; but I suggest that we would only allow ideas that clearly deliver public value and were true to the BBC purposes and values..." Yes the technology would enable democratisaiton of programming, but the value of the BBC is *in deciding* what does bring value to the culture. Otherwise, we already have the Web for this kind of open marketplace programming. No need to turn the BBC into something that is already there, we have netvibes/loveFilm for putting our cold hard cash. I would also have serious concerns about the public actually having the time, skill or desire to get on and make decision for what they want <- lest we want 14 year old girls (and their dad's credit cards) making programming decisions for us? Let alone how a sixty year old is going to get on the web? Love the enthusiasm for new innovation though! Keep 'em coming :) “Would this water down the quality of our content? It could. And that would be a disaster; but I suggest that we would only allow ideas that clearly deliver public value and were true to the BBC purposes and values…”

Yes the technology would enable democratisaiton of programming, but the value of the BBC is *in deciding* what does bring value to the culture. Otherwise, we already have the Web for this kind of open marketplace programming. No need to turn the BBC into something that is already there, we have netvibes/loveFilm for putting our cold hard cash.

I would also have serious concerns about the public actually having the time, skill or desire to get on and make decision for what they want <- lest we want 14 year old girls (and their dad’s credit cards) making programming decisions for us? Let alone how a sixty year old is going to get on the web?

Love the enthusiasm for new innovation though! Keep ‘em coming :)

]]> By: Larry Doyle http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/beebcamp-gave-me-a-new-idea-for-how-the-bbc-could-work-2/#comment-64 Larry Doyle Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:35:59 +0000 http://jasondaponte.wordpress.com/?p=308#comment-64 interesting idea... I'm about to start working at CBS interactive, and they couldn't be farther from this kind of thinking, it's all about their TV shows with ad bumpers anywhere on the web. interesting idea… I’m about to start working at CBS interactive, and they couldn’t be farther from this kind of thinking, it’s all about their TV shows with ad bumpers anywhere on the web.

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